Joshua Judson Rosen on status.hackerposse.com

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1. Conscious Observer (consciousobserver)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 22:37:47 EST Conscious Observer

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   • Joshua Judson Rosen
   @rozzin more than the revision history built into WordPress?
2. MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Wednesday, 06-Jan-2016 16:33:32 EST MMN-o ✅⃠

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   @resumer @knuthollund Yes, whether the post is removed is entirely up to the receiving side. Think of !gnusocial nodes as feed readers. It's up to the reader to decide whether to cache or not. It's a public network, and everyone using it should be aware that it is.
   (our strength is not _data privacy_, but decentralisation and interoperability)
3. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 22:40:13 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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   • MMN-o ✅⃠
   @mmn, there are definitely people for whom the real glory of `online publishing' is that (they think) it means `never having to print a retraction'. ☺ e.g.: http://thequickbrown.com/stories/stage-set-for-jackson-spectacul/index.html http://status.hackerposse.com/url/9694 #righttobeforgotten?
4. MMN-o ✅⃠ (mmn)'s status on Thursday, 07-Jan-2016 04:35:45 EST MMN-o ✅⃠

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   • resumer
   @resumer You're still going to have the federated copies lying around. Anyone anywhere can store copies and none of us can (or should be able to) delete stuff from another person's harddrive. I don't see anyone requesting the ability to remotely delete e-mails from another user's inbox, a submission to the the "opinions" part of a local newspaper or stuff like that so…
5. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 22:34:48 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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   It still annoys the heck out of me that blogs (including mine) aren't revision-controlled. I find the usability of manually-inserted "[EDIT: I changed this from... to...]" to be pretty atrocious--both as a writer and a reader. It was OK when we were publishing by distributing *paper*, but we should be able to do better on the Internet. #Dammit.
6. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 22:32:03 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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   I always thought of maintaining #revision history of the timeline as an explicit #feature, rather than just something for people without forethought to be afraid of ne'er-do-wells setting up. ☺
7. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 22:29:28 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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   Years ago, long before GNU social or StatusNet or #ActivityStreams, I remember actually working on something similar (more like a #MUD...) with reified actions that distributed over the network; it was my intention w/ _that_ (though I never actually got there) to be able to publish #REVISION actions and also have them propagate in the same way as less meta actions.
8. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 22:16:35 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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   If there's mountains of evidence contradicting someone's statement, that we can all trace back to multiple reputable sources (e.g.: because too many people/archives `refuse to forget'), then we can all judge--from that--that someone's lying. But something about making non-repudiation `too built-in' doesn't sit right with me.
9. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 22:12:33 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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   I think I may kind-of prefer a world in which it's still _technically_ possible for someone to claim `I didn't say that, it's a made-up quotation' even when they really did.
10. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 22:10:27 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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    On the other hand, the idea of cryptosigning _everything_, building nonrepudiation into the comms system at too low a level, also kind-of creeps me out when it comes up....
11. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 22:05:36 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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    Other things that I _can_ see wanting `to have never published'..., it seems like there are just too many of those that creep me out. Like, some of the stuff on http://thequickbrown.com/ and probably lots of things affected by http://status.hackerposse.com/url/9694
12. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 21:59:02 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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    Typos and rotted hyperlinks don't really give me the sort of `oh no' feeling that would make me want to actually erase the record, though—and I think it's actually at least a little useful to see the history of changes there.
13. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 21:55:43 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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    I also semi-frequently #wish that I could publish a #revision to now-rotted hyperlinks....
14. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Monday, 15-Feb-2016 21:53:06 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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    I do, in some sense, occasionally `wish that I could un-publish' a #typo..., but really that's more properly `I #wish I could publish a #revision [without confusing everyone else's timelines like a "s/ypot/typo/" postscript does]'.
15. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 11-Feb-2016 22:48:48 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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    Thanks #ActivityStreams for helping us conflate "delete mine" and "recall/cancel/request others delete"(?) http://wiki.activitystrea.ms/w/page/23541872/Delete ; I █████ want █████ ████████████ ███████ ████ ████....
16. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 11-Feb-2016 22:01:15 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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    • MMN-o ✅⃠
    Interestingly..., looking at the !gnusocial commit logs and online conversation, it looks like @mmn actually did make notice-deletes propagate through the network quasi-recently: http://status.hackerposse.com/conversation/87921#notice-87928 (commit from Sat Oct 10 11:08:17 2015 +0200: "I think I have made the delete verb generate proper AS").
17. Joshua Judson Rosen (rozzin)'s status on Thursday, 11-Feb-2016 16:38:19 EST Joshua Judson Rosen

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    • Jeff Ratliff
    Congratulations, @gomerx! I'm working on finding a match like that for myself, right now ☺
18. Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Thursday, 11-Feb-2016 14:25:24 EST Jeff Ratliff

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    Actually, it sounds great! They just made me an offer. :)
19. Jeff Ratliff (gomerx)'s status on Thursday, 11-Feb-2016 11:17:43 EST Jeff Ratliff

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    For those playing along at home, my job interview yesterday was amazing. They seem to really need a guy who is exactly like me. Hopeful.
20. bob (bob)'s status on Thursday, 11-Feb-2016 16:03:08 EST bob

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    @rozzin @mcscx I don't think so. I think it's just because this is a GNU project, and people who care about software freedom are in general more thoughtful.

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